Vim li cas zaj dab neeg ntu 28 thaum kawg yog kev sib tw ntawm kev hlub dhau kev ntxub

2023 Tus sau: Mary Ward | [email protected]. Kawg hloov kho: 2023-07-27 20:18

Raws li nws phau ntawv tshiab tshawb txog Tshooj 28 raug tso tawm, Paul Baker tham txog keeb kwm ntawm txoj cai tiv thaiv gay

Nyob rau xyoo 1988, Margaret Thatcher's Conservative tsoom fwv tau tshaj tawm Tshooj 28, txoj cai lim hiam, tsis meej pem thiab tsis meej pem uas txwv tsis pub "kev txhawb nqa kev nyiam sib deev" los ntawm cov tub ceev xwm hauv cheeb tsam. Tsis muaj leej twg nkag siab nws lub peev xwm tiag tiag - tshwj xeeb tshaj yog cov neeg sab xis-tis loj uas txhawb nqa rau nws - tab sis nws tau tiv thaiv cov kws qhia ntawv los ntawm kev hais txog kev sib raug zoo ntawm kev sib deev hauv chav kawm kev sib deev. Nws kuj ua rau lawv tsis tshua muaj kev cuam tshuam thaum lawv pom ib tug menyuam kawm ntawv raug kev thab plaub homophobic.

Nyob hauv nws phau ntawv tshiab ci ntsa iab Outrageous! Zaj Dab Neeg ntawm Tshooj 28 thiab Kev Sib Tw rau Tebchaws Askiv Txoj Kev Kawm LGBT, Paul Baker tshawb txog kev coj noj coj ua thiab kev coj noj coj ua uas coj mus rau Tshooj 28 tau ua tiav hauv Tory cauldron. Pab los ntawm cov xov xwm sab xis, cov neeg tawm tsam kev tawm tsam gay tuaj yeem nthuav tawm lub tswv yim tsis txaus ntseeg uas "loony sab laug" Pawg Neeg Ua Haujlwm tau sim "qhia" gay poj niam txiv neej hauv tsev kawm ntawv. Raws li xyoo 1980s rattled, qhov tsis paub txog kev coj ncaj ncees kev ntshai no tau nce ntxiv los ntawm kev tsis paub ntau ntxiv nyob ib puag ncig tus kabmob HIV / Aids. Hauv xyoo 1987 kev tawm tswv yim, 75 feem pua ntawm Brits tau hais tias kev sib deev yog ib txwm ua lossis qee zaum yuam kev. Txawm li cas los xij, Baker phau ntawv kuj qhia txog zaj dab neeg zoo dua. Los ntawm 2003, Tshooj 28 tau raug tshem tawm hauv tebchaws Askiv, Wales thiab Scotland tom qab kev txhawb nqa los ntawm ntau pawg LGBTQ + cov cai. Baker delves ib yam nkaus li tob rau hauv qhov ua rau lawv qhov chaw tos txais tau zoo - thiab feem ntau yog witty.

Baker, uas yog tus xibfwb ntawm Lus Askiv ntawm Lancaster University, muaj lub pob ntseg zoo rau qhov tsis sib xws ntawm qhov chaw pw hav zoov ntawm lub sijhawm cov neeg tawm tsam tawm tsam gay. Nws piv Baroness Young - tus tiv thaiv tsis txaus ntseeg ntawm Tshooj 28 uas tau tshaj tawm zoo li "Kuv tsis ntseeg tias muaj tib neeg txoj cai los ua buggery" - rau tus neeg phem hammy pantomime. Qhov tshwm sim yog ib phau ntawv uas undercuts lawv histrionic kev ncaj ncees ncaj ncees nrog lom zem, tab sis tsis cia leej twg tawm ntawm tus nuv. Nws yog qhov xav tsis thoob uas tau nyeem tias thaum tus thawj coj ntawm Tshooj 28 tau sib cav nyob rau xyoo 1986, cov neeg hais lus hauv Lub Tsev ntawm Tswv Ntuj xav tias muaj peev xwm piav qhia cov neeg queer li "tu siab thiab kho siab", "kev tsis taus" thiab "kev sib deev tsis taus".

Ntawm no, Baker tham txog qhov nws tau kawm txog Tshooj 28, thiab peb li LGBTQ + zej zog thiab cov phooj ywg tuaj yeem kawm tau los ntawm tam sim no.

Yuav cuam tshuam li cas rau cov menyuam yaus uas loj hlob hauv tus duab ntxoov ntxoo ntawm Tshooj 28?

Paul Baker: Nws tsuas yog phem. Kuv xav tias txhua qhov kev thab plaub hauv tsev kawm ntawv thaum lub sijhawm yuav tshwm sim - Tshooj 28 yog qhov tshwm sim ntawm qhov tsis yog qhov ua rau. Tab sis qhov tseem ceeb Tshooj 28 tau lees paub qhov homophobia uas twb muaj lawm thiab tsis muaj dab tsi los daws nws. Vim koj tham tsis tau txog kev ua gay nyob rau hauv tsev kawm ntawv, ntau tus me nyuam ntshai nws, thiab nws txwv tsis pub cov kws qhia ntawv uas xav hu tawm homophobic thab plaub los ntawm kev xav zoo li lawv tuaj yeem nkag mus. Yog cov menyuam loj hlob hauv tsev lawv nyob. hnov lus homophobic, lawv tuaj yeem mus rau hauv tsev kawm ntawv thiab rov hais cov lus ntawd yam tsis muaj kev sib tw. Yog li ntawd nws tau ua rau ob peb tiam neeg tau ntsib kev thab plaub homophobic phem dua li lawv yuav tau ua lawm. Nws muab roj ntxiv rau qhov hluav taws kub.

Thaum twg koj puas paub tias muaj ntau qhov xwm txheej tshwm sim nyob rau hauv zaj dab neeg no? Nyob rau hauv phau ntawv, koj muaj xws li ib tug tiag tiag ludicrous Conservative kev xaiv tsa advert featuring Betty Sheridan, ib tug poj niam los ntawm Haringey uas hais tias nws yog "tshem" tias "yog hais tias koj pov npav LABOR lawv yuav mus qhia kuv cov me nyuam txog GAYS & LESBIANS es tsis txhob muab lawv cov lus qhia kom raug.”

Paul Baker: Kuv xav tias kuv tuaj yeem tau sau ib phau ntawv ncaj, loj heev txog Tshooj 28, lossis phau ntawv npau taws. Thiab kuv tau ntxhov siab heev thaum kuv pib ua haujlwm rau nws - Kuv yuav tsum tso nws tseg rau ib lub lim tiam lossis yog li ntawd, ces rov qab los rau nws. Tab sis raws li kuv tau nyeem tag nrho cov khoom tsis zoo uas tib neeg tau hais [txog cov neeg queer] thaum lub sijhawm, qhov ua tau zoo ntawm nws tau los ntawm thiab ua rau qhov kev ua tsis zoo ntawm lub hauv paus. Kuv xav tias nws yuav luag zoo li lub tswv yim daws teeb meem: pom lub chaw pw hav zoov hauv zaj dab neeg phem no thiab zoo li thuam nws tawm. Kuv tsis xav ua phem rau tib neeg ntxiv rau tej yam uas lawv hais thiab ua dhau 30 xyoo, yog li kuv xav tias muaj peev xwm luag txhua yam uas lawv hais thiab ua, feem ntau tawm ntawm qhov tsis paub, zoo li txoj hauv kev zoo dua.

Koj puas pom qhov zoo sib xws ntawm txoj kev tshaj tawm txoj cai tshaj tawm txog txoj cai gay hauv xyoo 80s thiab txoj kev qee qhov ntawm cov xov xwm tshaj tawm txog cov teeb meem tam sim no?

Paul Baker: Muaj tseeb. Hauv ob qhov xwm txheej koj pom cov neeg tawm tsam raug pleev xim rau "cov tub rog" uas tsis sawv cev rau txhua tus gay lossis txhua tus neeg hloov pauv; muaj lub tswv yim no tias lawv tab tom thawb rau tej yam uas txaus ntshai lossis tsis tsim nyog rau qee txoj kev. Thiab nyob rau hauv ob qho tib si koj kuj pom qhov "lawv xav kom koj cov menyuam" piav qhia uas ua rau muaj kev phom sij heev. Tab sis nws yog qhov nthuav tias thaum koj saib rov qab rau cov neeg uas tawm tsam tawm tsam Tshooj 28, tsis yog txhua tus ntawm lawv tau txhawb nqa cov teeb meem trans tam sim no. Kuv muaj cov tub ntxhais kawm uas tsis yog binary lossis trans thiab kuv hnov txog qhov tshwm sim hauv lawv lub neej thiab tej zaum yuav nyuaj npaum li cas rau lawv. Yog li kuv xav tias nws yog lub sijhawm tsis muaj tiag uas qee cov neeg uas tau dhau los ntawm Tshooj 28 tau tawm mus rau sab nraud thiab txiav txim siab tias cov neeg hloov pauv yuav tsum tsis txhob muaj txoj cai tib yam li lwm tus. Nws yog txaus ntshai, ua tau. Kev kawm yog ib qho txuas ntxiv mus - koj yuav tsum tau ua kom paub tseeb tias koj muaj kev nkag siab. Tsis muaj ib lub ntsiab lus uas nws nres, thiab koj yuav tsum npaj kom muaj koj qhov kev xav sib tw thiab kawm los ntawm lwm tus neeg qhia koj.

Nyob rau xyoo 2022, koj puas xav tias muaj kev phom sij ntawm ib yam dab tsi nyob deb ntawm Tshooj 28-zoo li raug teem los ntawm cov neeg tawm suab sab xis, tej zaum yuav tiv thaiv "kev tshaj tawm" ntawm kev paub txog kev hloov pauv?

Paul Baker: Nrog cov poj niam nyiam poj niam, gay thiab bisexual, muaj ntau tus sawv cev zoo tam sim no uas kuv tsis xav tias peb tuaj yeem mus rau theem uas 75 feem pua. cov neeg [hauv UK] tuaj yeem hais tias lawv tawm tsam peb. Tab sis nrog rau lwm tus, ntau pawg neeg tsis txaus ntseeg, kuv tuaj yeem pom muaj peev xwm rau qhov ntawd, yog li nws yuav tsum tau ceev faj. Nws tseem yog qhov txaus siab los saib qhov tshwm sim hauv thaj tsam Sparkhill ntawm Birmingham ob peb xyoos dhau los, qhov chaw muaj kev tawm tsam sab nraud cov tsev kawm vim hais tias cov lus ntawm LGBTQ kev sib luag tau raug qhia hauv chav kawm. Yog li nws zoo li tseem muaj hnab ris hauv tebchaws Askiv uas muaj kev xav zoo li no: lawv tau me dua thiab me dua, tab sis lawv tseem nyob ntawd, thiab peb yuav tsum nco ntsoov nco ntsoov.

Nqe 28 tsis yog ib qho uas peb tuaj yeem rov qab tau, ib feem vim nws zoo li ib qho khoom plig hauv xyoo 2022. Tab sis puas muaj qhov zoo uas peb tuaj yeem rub los ntawm zaj dab neeg no?

Paul Baker: Zoo, thaum kawg ntawm phau ntawv kuv sim kos qhov uas cov neeg tawm tsam tau hais rau kuv txog Tshooj 28 thiab tig mus rau hauv zaj dab neeg ntawm lawv lub siab tawv thiab tsis kam lees. tau hais tias lawv yog pej xeem thib ob. Kuv xav tias peb tuaj yeem saib Tshooj 28 yog qee yam uas cuam tshuam rau tsoomfwv [Thatcher]. Yog lawm, lawv tau dhau los thiab tej zaum nws pab lawv yeej qhov kev xaiv tsa lawv tej zaum yuav tau yeej lawm. Tab sis qhov nws tau ua thaum kawg yog politicize ntau tus neeg uas tsis yog nom tswv ua ntej. Thiab qhov ntawd tau ua rau muaj kev loj hlob ntawm LGBTQ txoj cai txav. Yog li tej zaum yog tsis muaj nws peb yuav tsis muaj tej yam zoo li sib npaug sib luag los yog muaj hnub nyoog sib npaug ntawm kev tso cai (rau cov txiv neej pw nrog txiv neej) sai heev. Nws nyuaj rau paub, tab sis peb muaj ntau txoj kev ywj pheej nyob rau xyoo 2022 - yam tsis zoo tag nrho, tab sis lawv zoo dua li kuv xav tias tib neeg yuav tau kwv yees xyoo 1988. Yog li qee qhov zoo tau tawm ntawm nws, thiab qhov ntawd yog vim qhov LGBTQ cov lus teb. Kuv xav hais tias zaj dab neeg ntu 28 kawg yog txoj kev sib hlub ntawm kev ntxub.